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		<title>By: Chris A</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2008/07/the-importance-of-the-christian-story/#comment-8535</link>
		<author>Chris A</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bryan, you outdid yourself on this one. You really hit the nail on the head on a number of points. I thought I was the only one who felt that way about "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God." Not too long ago someone I know referred to it as the greatest sermon ever preached. I'm like, "What?" And this guy is a good preacher in his own right. I'm sure he's preached better sermons than than himself. 

But yeah, I think we are trying to be relevant while undermining ourselves by  trying to relate to society based on their terms. Thanks for writing this. There's so much here worth considering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan, you outdid yourself on this one. You really hit the nail on the head on a number of points. I thought I was the only one who felt that way about &#8220;Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.&#8221; Not too long ago someone I know referred to it as the greatest sermon ever preached. I&#8217;m like, &#8220;What?&#8221; And this guy is a good preacher in his own right. I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s preached better sermons than than himself. </p>
<p>But yeah, I think we are trying to be relevant while undermining ourselves by  trying to relate to society based on their terms. Thanks for writing this. There&#8217;s so much here worth considering.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Emmerich</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2008/07/the-importance-of-the-christian-story/#comment-8538</link>
		<author>Don Emmerich</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bryan –

How do you suggest Christians go about curing their ignorance of history?  Any particular books or authors you recommend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan –</p>
<p>How do you suggest Christians go about curing their ignorance of history?  Any particular books or authors you recommend?</p>
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		<title>By: Darius T</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2008/07/the-importance-of-the-christian-story/#comment-8540</link>
		<author>Darius T</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I believe Bryan was being facetious when he refered to "Sinners..."  But I could be mistaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Bryan was being facetious when he refered to &#8220;Sinners&#8230;&#8221;  But I could be mistaken.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris A</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2008/07/the-importance-of-the-christian-story/#comment-8545</link>
		<author>Chris A</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"I believe Bryan was being facetious when he refered to “Sinners…” But I could be mistaken."

Oh. I think you're right. How embarrassing. Either way, the article is excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I believe Bryan was being facetious when he refered to “Sinners…” But I could be mistaken.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh. I think you&#8217;re right. How embarrassing. Either way, the article is excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius T</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2008/07/the-importance-of-the-christian-story/#comment-8547</link>
		<author>Darius T</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah, that is a bit embarrassing. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that is a bit embarrassing. <img src='http://zealfortruth.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2008/07/the-importance-of-the-christian-story/#comment-8550</link>
		<author>Bryan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Don, I'm in the process right now of slowly trying to learn the history of the church so I am by no means an expert on this.  I will however give the answer I usually do when your question comes up:

1. Find a good, but general, work on the history of the church.  When I started this process I used The Story of Christianity By Justo L. Gonzalez (&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Story-Christianity-Early-Church-Reformation/dp/0060633158/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1216760371&#38;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow"&gt;Volume 1&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Story-Christianity-Two-Reformation-Present/dp/0060633166/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1216760371&#38;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow"&gt;Volume 2&lt;/a&gt; since it's a very broad introduction.
2. See what parts of it you find interesting
3. Find out what are the best resources on those parts
4. Get your hands on those resources and read/watch them

Now by best resources I mean both primary and secondary sources. For example, I'm just beginning to look at medieval Christianity.  I'll be doing this likely for a few years off and on just like I did with the First Great Awakening.  So knowing a bit about medieval theology and philosophy I knew right away that if I want to understand this time of the Church's history I needed to understand &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anicius_Manlius_Severinus_Boethius" rel="nofollow"&gt;Boethius&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas" rel="nofollow"&gt;Aquinas&lt;/a&gt; so I went out and got stuff BY (not about, but by) them.  Once I'm done reading some of their own work, I'll be looking at getting a biography on Aquinas (Boethius would be harder find one on) I'll also be looking at getting a history book specifically dealing with the middle ages so I can decide where to branch my research off to.  If there is writings from that time about the current situation, all the better.  I always want to read primary sources first.  

That might give some idea of how I'm trying to go and do this. 

As for SIHAG, I should write up a whole entry on that and JE one day.  Most people don't know that JE preached it many times before the revival began without must impact.  Also, many people don't now that &lt;a href="http://edwards.yale.edu/graham/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Billy Graham himself preached a version of it&lt;/a&gt;.  I would not go as far as calling it the greatest sermon ever (although I do like it), but it is a decent example of the preaching of the time.  My point with brining it up was the fact that because it's the main sermon associated with the First Great Awaking people who don't like it usually don't look beyond it to see what was actually going on during the awakening.  If you want to read a sermon by JE I would first recommend: "A Divine and Supernatural Light, Immediately Imparted To The Soul By The Spirit Of God, Shown To be Both Scriptural And Rational Doctrine" which can be found in his complete works Volume Two on CCLE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, I&#8217;m in the process right now of slowly trying to learn the history of the church so I am by no means an expert on this.  I will however give the answer I usually do when your question comes up:</p>
<p>1. Find a good, but general, work on the history of the church.  When I started this process I used The Story of Christianity By Justo L. Gonzalez (<a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Story-Christianity-Early-Church-Reformation/dp/0060633158/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1216760371&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Volume 1</a>, and <a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Story-Christianity-Two-Reformation-Present/dp/0060633166/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1216760371&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow">Volume 2</a> since it&#8217;s a very broad introduction.<br />
2. See what parts of it you find interesting<br />
3. Find out what are the best resources on those parts<br />
4. Get your hands on those resources and read/watch them</p>
<p>Now by best resources I mean both primary and secondary sources. For example, I&#8217;m just beginning to look at medieval Christianity.  I&#8217;ll be doing this likely for a few years off and on just like I did with the First Great Awakening.  So knowing a bit about medieval theology and philosophy I knew right away that if I want to understand this time of the Church&#8217;s history I needed to understand <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anicius_Manlius_Severinus_Boethius" rel="nofollow">Boethius</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas" rel="nofollow">Aquinas</a> so I went out and got stuff BY (not about, but by) them.  Once I&#8217;m done reading some of their own work, I&#8217;ll be looking at getting a biography on Aquinas (Boethius would be harder find one on) I&#8217;ll also be looking at getting a history book specifically dealing with the middle ages so I can decide where to branch my research off to.  If there is writings from that time about the current situation, all the better.  I always want to read primary sources first.  </p>
<p>That might give some idea of how I&#8217;m trying to go and do this. </p>
<p>As for SIHAG, I should write up a whole entry on that and JE one day.  Most people don&#8217;t know that JE preached it many times before the revival began without must impact.  Also, many people don&#8217;t now that <a href="http://edwards.yale.edu/graham/" rel="nofollow">Billy Graham himself preached a version of it</a>.  I would not go as far as calling it the greatest sermon ever (although I do like it), but it is a decent example of the preaching of the time.  My point with brining it up was the fact that because it&#8217;s the main sermon associated with the First Great Awaking people who don&#8217;t like it usually don&#8217;t look beyond it to see what was actually going on during the awakening.  If you want to read a sermon by JE I would first recommend: &#8220;A Divine and Supernatural Light, Immediately Imparted To The Soul By The Spirit Of God, Shown To be Both Scriptural And Rational Doctrine&#8221; which can be found in his complete works Volume Two on CCLE.</p>
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		<title>By: thainamu</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2008/07/the-importance-of-the-christian-story/#comment-8552</link>
		<author>thainamu</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My comment isn't directly related to your point, but is related indirectly.

You might find these links interesting:
http://www.chronologicalbiblestorying.com/
http://www.onestory.org/Default.aspx

Stories are primarily told orally, a fact you allude to when you point out that preaching often does not tell our story (of course, stories are written too, but it is the written stories, in the Bible, that are not told orally or are often not even read).

The parachurch organization of which I am a part has in recent years developed oral strategies to use in cultures that are preliterate, or places where the economics will never be such to support a literature.  Technology is at a point to make this doable with things like the Megavoice player http://www.megavoice.com/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment isn&#8217;t directly related to your point, but is related indirectly.</p>
<p>You might find these links interesting:<br />
<a href="http://www.chronologicalbiblestorying.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chronologicalbiblestorying.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.onestory.org/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.onestory.org/Default.aspx</a></p>
<p>Stories are primarily told orally, a fact you allude to when you point out that preaching often does not tell our story (of course, stories are written too, but it is the written stories, in the Bible, that are not told orally or are often not even read).</p>
<p>The parachurch organization of which I am a part has in recent years developed oral strategies to use in cultures that are preliterate, or places where the economics will never be such to support a literature.  Technology is at a point to make this doable with things like the Megavoice player <a href="http://www.megavoice.com/." rel="nofollow">http://www.megavoice.com/.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2008/07/the-importance-of-the-christian-story/#comment-8555</link>
		<author>Colin</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bryan, my question is the same as Don's, but I want to know how to do it in FIVE MINUTES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan, my question is the same as Don&#8217;s, but I want to know how to do it in FIVE MINUTES!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Austere</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2008/07/the-importance-of-the-christian-story/#comment-8563</link>
		<author>Chris Austere</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thainamu, that Megavoice player is awesome. We had one in our church they let us borrow for demonstration purposes. Truly amazing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thainamu, that Megavoice player is awesome. We had one in our church they let us borrow for demonstration purposes. Truly amazing!</p>
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