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	<title>Comments on: Christians Should Vote Their Ideals - Not be Partisans</title>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2611</link>
		<author>Darius</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;em&gt;"Increasingly, younger Christians consider things like poverty and the environment to be moral issues, areas traditionally emphasized by democrats... And Jesus taught us to care for the poor, so we will not stand behind a candidate who has no plan for helping them."&lt;/em&gt;

Maybe, just maybe, Christian conservatives recognize that government getting into the poverty-fighting business (at least in the ways it currently dirties its fingers) does NOT help the poor.  Jesus taught us as INDIVIDUALS to help the poor, not to make government forcibly tax the rich to give to the poor.  Read &lt;em&gt;Life at the Bottom: The Worldview that Makes the Underclass&lt;/em&gt; by Theodore Dalrymple for a thorough discussion on the foolishness of government welfare.  Seriously, read it, it will quite probably open your eyes to the evils of socialism, among other things.  

As for environmentalism, perhaps Christian conservatives don't like to be lemmings following the Rev. Al Gore and his bogus global warming cult.  That COULD be a reason, who knows?  Be stewards of the environment while not WORSHIPING it (and science).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Increasingly, younger Christians consider things like poverty and the environment to be moral issues, areas traditionally emphasized by democrats&#8230; And Jesus taught us to care for the poor, so we will not stand behind a candidate who has no plan for helping them.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Maybe, just maybe, Christian conservatives recognize that government getting into the poverty-fighting business (at least in the ways it currently dirties its fingers) does NOT help the poor.  Jesus taught us as INDIVIDUALS to help the poor, not to make government forcibly tax the rich to give to the poor.  Read <em>Life at the Bottom: The Worldview that Makes the Underclass</em> by Theodore Dalrymple for a thorough discussion on the foolishness of government welfare.  Seriously, read it, it will quite probably open your eyes to the evils of socialism, among other things.  </p>
<p>As for environmentalism, perhaps Christian conservatives don&#8217;t like to be lemmings following the Rev. Al Gore and his bogus global warming cult.  That COULD be a reason, who knows?  Be stewards of the environment while not WORSHIPING it (and science).</p>
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		<title>By: Jew</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2612</link>
		<author>Jew</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2612</guid>
					<description>I don't think that conservative Evangelicals will abandon the Republican party even if Giuliani is nominated. A recent Gallup poll showed that even among conservatives who plan to vote on values (specifically, abortion and gay marriage) Giuliani still commands the most support of any Republican candidate. (&lt;a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/102685/Conservative-Values-Republicans-Prefer-Giuliani.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;Giuliani, Moral Values, and the GOP Nomination&lt;/a&gt;, Nov. 13)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that conservative Evangelicals will abandon the Republican party even if Giuliani is nominated. A recent Gallup poll showed that even among conservatives who plan to vote on values (specifically, abortion and gay marriage) Giuliani still commands the most support of any Republican candidate. (<a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/102685/Conservative-Values-Republicans-Prefer-Giuliani.aspx" rel="nofollow">Giuliani, Moral Values, and the GOP Nomination</a>, Nov. 13)</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2613</link>
		<author>Darius</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2613</guid>
					<description>That's because no one is really paying attention to politics yet.  37% of people think he's pro-life, only 8% pro-choice.  Compared to January... it is weird, it's going the opposite direction.  Uninformed people, get a clue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s because no one is really paying attention to politics yet.  37% of people think he&#8217;s pro-life, only 8% pro-choice.  Compared to January&#8230; it is weird, it&#8217;s going the opposite direction.  Uninformed people, get a clue!</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2614</link>
		<author>Darius</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2614</guid>
					<description>You know, I think in this case, I could see supporting a third party candidate (or not voting at all).  But only as long as that candidate really filled the voids that were missing in the Republican candidate.  For example, if Giuliani faces Clinton, I plan on not voting.  However, if there were a candidate who fit the bill on the abortion issue running on the ticket while not being completely in left field on other issues (this rules out Ron Paul), I can see myself voting for him.  Like Hungry says, this would show the Republican party that pro-lifers are not to their party what blacks are to the Democrat party, we're not a given.  I wouldn't want the differences to be much more than on the abortion issue, as this would only muddy the water.  If Ron Paul was the third-party candidate and took a bunch of votes away from Giuliani, the Republicans wouldn't learn that abortion was the issue, they would assume (and probably rightly so) that foreign policy was the issue.  So I almost would want a third-party candidate who had very middle-of-the-road Republican values except on abortion, where he was very stridently pro-life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I think in this case, I could see supporting a third party candidate (or not voting at all).  But only as long as that candidate really filled the voids that were missing in the Republican candidate.  For example, if Giuliani faces Clinton, I plan on not voting.  However, if there were a candidate who fit the bill on the abortion issue running on the ticket while not being completely in left field on other issues (this rules out Ron Paul), I can see myself voting for him.  Like Hungry says, this would show the Republican party that pro-lifers are not to their party what blacks are to the Democrat party, we&#8217;re not a given.  I wouldn&#8217;t want the differences to be much more than on the abortion issue, as this would only muddy the water.  If Ron Paul was the third-party candidate and took a bunch of votes away from Giuliani, the Republicans wouldn&#8217;t learn that abortion was the issue, they would assume (and probably rightly so) that foreign policy was the issue.  So I almost would want a third-party candidate who had very middle-of-the-road Republican values except on abortion, where he was very stridently pro-life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jew</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2615</link>
		<author>Jew</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2615</guid>
					<description>Actually those numbers are reversed. 37% think he's pro-choice, 8% think pro-life. The label on the chart in the Gallup article is incorrect, they've got the pro-life and the pro-choice switched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually those numbers are reversed. 37% think he&#8217;s pro-choice, 8% think pro-life. The label on the chart in the Gallup article is incorrect, they&#8217;ve got the pro-life and the pro-choice switched.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2616</link>
		<author>Darius</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>OH ok, whew.  I was starting to think a bunch of voters are retards... oh wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH ok, whew.  I was starting to think a bunch of voters are retards&#8230; oh wait.</p>
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		<title>By: PATTI</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2617</link>
		<author>PATTI</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"A good soldier does not concern himself with the affairs of this world." (In Corinthians somewhere) Upon this scripture, I feel the Lord has asked me not to vote, but to continue to help the poor widows, orphans, and others in persecuted countries in the Body of Christ ourselves. Why wait until someone gets elected and tries to funnel our tax dollars to help the poor? We can do something ourselves with some of the extravagant monies we spend on holidays, by giving them (our money) to our poor brothers and sisters in the Lord. Ministry we go through: InJesusName.org. Trustworthy and effective-widows get rice, clothing, and food, and in turn they give thanks to God, their provider. Many also write us a precious letter of thanksgiving.When did we see you hungry, Jesus? When you did it unto the least of these, my brethren, you have done it unto Me. We can truly bless Jesus by doing this, and the truth that it is indeed more blessed than to receive will come to life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A good soldier does not concern himself with the affairs of this world.&#8221; (In Corinthians somewhere) Upon this scripture, I feel the Lord has asked me not to vote, but to continue to help the poor widows, orphans, and others in persecuted countries in the Body of Christ ourselves. Why wait until someone gets elected and tries to funnel our tax dollars to help the poor? We can do something ourselves with some of the extravagant monies we spend on holidays, by giving them (our money) to our poor brothers and sisters in the Lord. Ministry we go through: InJesusName.org. Trustworthy and effective-widows get rice, clothing, and food, and in turn they give thanks to God, their provider. Many also write us a precious letter of thanksgiving.When did we see you hungry, Jesus? When you did it unto the least of these, my brethren, you have done it unto Me. We can truly bless Jesus by doing this, and the truth that it is indeed more blessed than to receive will come to life.</p>
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		<title>By: PATTI</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2619</link>
		<author>PATTI</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2619</guid>
					<description>HI-FYI-I wrote the name of my blogspot wrong when registering. It is thissamejesus.blogspot.com. Apparently, it had 2 http's in front of it instead of one. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI-FYI-I wrote the name of my blogspot wrong when registering. It is thissamejesus.blogspot.com. Apparently, it had 2 http&#8217;s in front of it instead of one. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2620</link>
		<author>Darius</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him." 2 Tim. 2:4

Patti, I assume this was to what you were referring.

If you feel called (by the Lord) not to vote by that verse, more power to you.  However, the context seems to indicate something else (or at least doesn't speak to political involvement specifically).  Immediately before this sentence, Paul is speaking of enduring hardship and being strong as a soldier of Christ.  "Soldier" here is a metaphor, as are"civilian affairs."  We're not literally soliers, nor (if you read further down) are we literally runners in a race. The context would seem to imply that a Christian should not get caught up in worldly pursuits (most likely money, fame, materialism) and forget to embrace the hardships that come with following Jesus.  I don't see from this one verse an indication that we MUST not vote.  Isn't this a false dichotomy, can't you both vote AND help widows, orphans, and the like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him.&#8221; 2 Tim. 2:4</p>
<p>Patti, I assume this was to what you were referring.</p>
<p>If you feel called (by the Lord) not to vote by that verse, more power to you.  However, the context seems to indicate something else (or at least doesn&#8217;t speak to political involvement specifically).  Immediately before this sentence, Paul is speaking of enduring hardship and being strong as a soldier of Christ.  &#8220;Soldier&#8221; here is a metaphor, as are&#8221;civilian affairs.&#8221;  We&#8217;re not literally soliers, nor (if you read further down) are we literally runners in a race. The context would seem to imply that a Christian should not get caught up in worldly pursuits (most likely money, fame, materialism) and forget to embrace the hardships that come with following Jesus.  I don&#8217;t see from this one verse an indication that we MUST not vote.  Isn&#8217;t this a false dichotomy, can&#8217;t you both vote AND help widows, orphans, and the like?</p>
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		<title>By: Repulicans Presidential Election 2008 &#187; Christians Should Vote Their Ideals - Not be Partisans</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2621</link>
		<author>Repulicans Presidential Election 2008 &#187; Christians Should Vote Their Ideals - Not be Partisans</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2621</guid>
					<description>[...] Hungry Sasquatch placed an observative post today on Christians Should Vote Their Ideals - Not be PartisansHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Hungry Sasquatch placed an observative post today on Christians Should Vote Their Ideals - Not be PartisansHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Thainamu</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2622</link>
		<author>Thainamu</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have mostly voted republican over the many years I've been voting, and I'm a Christian, but I resent being lumped into the Republican-Evangelical alliance.  That is why I'm registered as an independent.

I also basically hate politics and the way-too-long election season in this country.  I don't pretend to understand all the different things a president is supposed to be knowledgeable about such as global economics, history, war, public policy, and especially the law of unintended consequences.  

So, like a silly old lady, I vote what I know:  a person's personal life makes a difference and life begins at conception.  I study those two things in a candidate.  My political ideals aren't that extensive, but they are lofty, and I stick to them.

I won't vote for Giuliani or Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mostly voted republican over the many years I&#8217;ve been voting, and I&#8217;m a Christian, but I resent being lumped into the Republican-Evangelical alliance.  That is why I&#8217;m registered as an independent.</p>
<p>I also basically hate politics and the way-too-long election season in this country.  I don&#8217;t pretend to understand all the different things a president is supposed to be knowledgeable about such as global economics, history, war, public policy, and especially the law of unintended consequences.  </p>
<p>So, like a silly old lady, I vote what I know:  a person&#8217;s personal life makes a difference and life begins at conception.  I study those two things in a candidate.  My political ideals aren&#8217;t that extensive, but they are lofty, and I stick to them.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t vote for Giuliani or Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2627</link>
		<author>Darius</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2627</guid>
					<description>I will give Giuliani partial props for sticking to his position on abortion.  Many other candidates would have given lip service and "said the right thing" to win pro-life support.  Not Giuliani, I heard him on the radio doing an interview with Prager a couple months ago and he said that if abortion is the premier issue with a voter and they don't like Giuliani's position, they SHOULD vote for someone else.  He went on to say that however, he intends on appointing strict constructionist judges... blah blah blah.  I do respect a politician who doesn't say what he knows is the easy thing to say or what people want to hear.

That said, still not voting for ya Rudy. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will give Giuliani partial props for sticking to his position on abortion.  Many other candidates would have given lip service and &#8220;said the right thing&#8221; to win pro-life support.  Not Giuliani, I heard him on the radio doing an interview with Prager a couple months ago and he said that if abortion is the premier issue with a voter and they don&#8217;t like Giuliani&#8217;s position, they SHOULD vote for someone else.  He went on to say that however, he intends on appointing strict constructionist judges&#8230; blah blah blah.  I do respect a politician who doesn&#8217;t say what he knows is the easy thing to say or what people want to hear.</p>
<p>That said, still not voting for ya Rudy. <img src='http://zealfortruth.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jasen Tracy</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2628</link>
		<author>Jasen Tracy</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thainamu, can you really register as an independent?  It was my understanding that it Texas the only time party affiliation comes up is when you vote in a primary.  And then whoever's primary you voted in is your party for the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thainamu, can you really register as an independent?  It was my understanding that it Texas the only time party affiliation comes up is when you vote in a primary.  And then whoever&#8217;s primary you voted in is your party for the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2629</link>
		<author>Darius</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Is it true that some states don't allow you to register when you go to vote in the general election?  You have to register beforehand?  I've only voted twice (2004 and 2006), and both times I registered at the polls.  But that's Minnesota.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it true that some states don&#8217;t allow you to register when you go to vote in the general election?  You have to register beforehand?  I&#8217;ve only voted twice (2004 and 2006), and both times I registered at the polls.  But that&#8217;s Minnesota.</p>
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		<title>By: Jew</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2630</link>
		<author>Jew</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You have to register 30 days in advance in Texas.</description>
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		<title>By: Thainamu</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2631</link>
		<author>Thainamu</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jasen said, "Thainamu, can you really register as an independent? It was my understanding that it Texas the only time party affiliation comes up is when you vote in a primary."

Hmm, you may be right.  It was many years ago that I registered and dealt with the the issue of my affiliation then.   Perhaps I have just considered myself an independent for many years, even if it doesn't actually say that anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jasen said, &#8220;Thainamu, can you really register as an independent? It was my understanding that it Texas the only time party affiliation comes up is when you vote in a primary.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm, you may be right.  It was many years ago that I registered and dealt with the the issue of my affiliation then.   Perhaps I have just considered myself an independent for many years, even if it doesn&#8217;t actually say that anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasen Tracy</title>
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		<author>Jasen Tracy</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jew, but once you're registered you're registered right?  You don't have to do it for every election.  They keep sending me new voting cards whenever I need one anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jew, but once you&#8217;re registered you&#8217;re registered right?  You don&#8217;t have to do it for every election.  They keep sending me new voting cards whenever I need one anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Hungry Sasquatch</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2633</link>
		<author>Hungry Sasquatch</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"Maybe, just maybe, Christian conservatives recognize that government getting into the poverty-fighting business (at least in the ways it currently dirties its fingers) does NOT help the poor. Jesus taught us as INDIVIDUALS to help the poor, not to make government forcibly tax the rich to give to the poor...As for environmentalism, perhaps Christian conservatives don’t like to be lemmings following the Rev. Al Gore and his bogus global warming cult. That COULD be a reason, who knows? Be stewards of the environment while not WORSHIPING it (and science)."

I completely agree with you, Darius, especially on the poverty issue.  I've worked extensively with people on welfare, and I'm convinced it's pretty much the WORST thing we can do for poor people.  I was just trying to point out that younger conservative Christians are more concerned with these issues than previous generations, and political parties would be wise to take this into account.  I'm certainly not advocating Democratic strategies for dealing with these problems.

PATTI, thanks for weighing in.  I agree that we shouldn't look to the government as the primary vehicle for carrying out Christ's mission for us.  This is a big part of why I'm a Libertarian: I want the government to leave a lot of stuff alone and let the private sector deal with it.  I would be inclined to vote for a candidate who believed in such a strategy.  But how does not helping elect worthy leaders make you any better at helping the widows and orphans of the world?

Colin, I liked my title better.  I'm suing you for causing me severe psychological trauma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe, just maybe, Christian conservatives recognize that government getting into the poverty-fighting business (at least in the ways it currently dirties its fingers) does NOT help the poor. Jesus taught us as INDIVIDUALS to help the poor, not to make government forcibly tax the rich to give to the poor&#8230;As for environmentalism, perhaps Christian conservatives don’t like to be lemmings following the Rev. Al Gore and his bogus global warming cult. That COULD be a reason, who knows? Be stewards of the environment while not WORSHIPING it (and science).&#8221;</p>
<p>I completely agree with you, Darius, especially on the poverty issue.  I&#8217;ve worked extensively with people on welfare, and I&#8217;m convinced it&#8217;s pretty much the WORST thing we can do for poor people.  I was just trying to point out that younger conservative Christians are more concerned with these issues than previous generations, and political parties would be wise to take this into account.  I&#8217;m certainly not advocating Democratic strategies for dealing with these problems.</p>
<p>PATTI, thanks for weighing in.  I agree that we shouldn&#8217;t look to the government as the primary vehicle for carrying out Christ&#8217;s mission for us.  This is a big part of why I&#8217;m a Libertarian: I want the government to leave a lot of stuff alone and let the private sector deal with it.  I would be inclined to vote for a candidate who believed in such a strategy.  But how does not helping elect worthy leaders make you any better at helping the widows and orphans of the world?</p>
<p>Colin, I liked my title better.  I&#8217;m suing you for causing me severe psychological trauma.</p>
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		<title>By: Jew</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2634</link>
		<author>Jew</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2634</guid>
					<description>Jasen Tracy said: "&lt;i&gt;Jew, but once you’re registered you’re registered right? You don’t have to do it for every election.&lt;/i&gt;"

That's right, you don't need to re-register unless you move. You can skip an election and they won't unregister you or anything like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jasen Tracy said: &#8220;<i>Jew, but once you’re registered you’re registered right? You don’t have to do it for every election.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right, you don&#8217;t need to re-register unless you move. You can skip an election and they won&#8217;t unregister you or anything like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/11/christians-should-vote-their-ideals-not-be-partisans/#comment-2638</link>
		<author>Darius</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ok, Hungry, sorry if I misinterpreted.  I thought you were libertarian, so I didn't know why you seemed to be implying that governments should get into the poverty business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Hungry, sorry if I misinterpreted.  I thought you were libertarian, so I didn&#8217;t know why you seemed to be implying that governments should get into the poverty business.</p>
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		<author>who can christians vote for</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 07:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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