Comments on: Muslim and Christian http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:30:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Darius http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-354 Darius Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:10:19 +0000 http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-354 I found this Redding gal interesting when Mark Steyn mentioned her a couple weeks ago. Pretty funny how completely ignorant of both religions she truly is. Islam calls for her death, and Christianity for her excommunication. Guess she loves to be ostracized. "Much as the Anglican communion hates to admit it, Rowan Williams is less representative of his church than Peter Akinola." As Mark Steyn also pointed out, more people fill the Anglican pews in Nigeria on a given Sunday than in all of the Anglican churches in North America and Europe combined. The Episcopal church is dying in the Western world, and I say good riddance! I found this Redding gal interesting when Mark Steyn mentioned her a couple weeks ago. Pretty funny how completely ignorant of both religions she truly is. Islam calls for her death, and Christianity for her excommunication. Guess she loves to be ostracized.

“Much as the Anglican communion hates to admit it, Rowan Williams is less representative of his church than Peter Akinola.” As Mark Steyn also pointed out, more people fill the Anglican pews in Nigeria on a given Sunday than in all of the Anglican churches in North America and Europe combined. The Episcopal church is dying in the Western world, and I say good riddance!

]]> By: Jasen Tracy http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-355 Jasen Tracy Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:45:05 +0000 http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-355 Christianity Today is now reporting that Redding has been suspended (mostly). http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/julyweb-only/127-51.0.html Christianity Today is now reporting that Redding has been suspended (mostly).

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/julyweb-only/127-51.0.html

]]> By: Jew http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-356 Jew Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:28:11 +0000 http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-356 Good. I hope the suspension will be permanent--her judgment will always be suspect. Islam and Christianity are incompatible, and we can't have church leaders teaching heresy. Good. I hope the suspension will be permanent–her judgment will always be suspect. Islam and Christianity are incompatible, and we can’t have church leaders teaching heresy.

]]> By: Darius http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-357 Darius Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:38:50 +0000 http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-357 Well, she is merely a symptom of a much larger problem with the Anglican church. They teach heresy all the time, she just took it to the next level. Well, she is merely a symptom of a much larger problem with the Anglican church. They teach heresy all the time, she just took it to the next level.

]]> By: thainamu http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-359 thainamu Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:18:29 +0000 http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-359 I agree, the woman is apostate. However, I'm not ready dump all Episcopalians. The denomination is certainly in trouble, especially over the issue of gays. But the solemn and classical style of their liturgy is a good alternative for those who aren't of the happy clappy persuasion. I recently learned about <a>the Reformed Episcopal Church</a> and would find that a great alternative except that they still speak King James English. (As a linguist, I can't understand why churches would think that upgrading to modern usage is somehow heretical.) I agree, the woman is apostate. However, I’m not ready dump all Episcopalians. The denomination is certainly in trouble, especially over the issue of gays. But the solemn and classical style of their liturgy is a good alternative for those who aren’t of the happy clappy persuasion. I recently learned about the Reformed Episcopal Church and would find that a great alternative except that they still speak King James English. (As a linguist, I can’t understand why churches would think that upgrading to modern usage is somehow heretical.)

]]> By: Sharon http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-360 Sharon Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:54:27 +0000 http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-360 Hear, hear to Thainamu's moderating comment, although liturgy style certainly says little about doctrine. It is interesting how Redding's decisions were a byproduct of her feelings and centered on herself. "She has always sensed that God existed and God loved her..." "She felt called to the priesthood and was ordained in 1984." "...a local Muslim leader gave a talk at the cathedral, then prayed before those attending. Redding was moved... it seemed to her that his whole body was involved in surrendering to God." "The chanting appealed to the singer in Redding; the meditation spoke to her heart." "There were moments when practicing Islam seemed like coming home." "She found the discipline of praying five times a day... gave her the deep sense of connection with God that she yearned for." Hopefully without raising violent protest, can I suggest that some of this feelings-sensitive tendency is characteristic of women? Churches that permit women to be leaders (bishop, pastor, or other) might want to consider how this tendency could invite such problems, at least for the sake of the congregation. Hear, hear to Thainamu’s moderating comment, although liturgy style certainly says little about doctrine.

It is interesting how Redding’s decisions were a byproduct of her feelings and centered on herself.

“She has always sensed that God existed and God loved her…”

“She felt called to the priesthood and was ordained in 1984.”

“…a local Muslim leader gave a talk at the cathedral, then prayed before those attending. Redding was moved… it seemed to her that his whole body was involved in surrendering to God.”

“The chanting appealed to the singer in Redding; the meditation spoke to her heart.”

“There were moments when practicing Islam seemed like coming home.”

“She found the discipline of praying five times a day… gave her the deep sense of connection with God that she yearned for.”

Hopefully without raising violent protest, can I suggest that some of this feelings-sensitive tendency is characteristic of women? Churches that permit women to be leaders (bishop, pastor, or other) might want to consider how this tendency could invite such problems, at least for the sake of the congregation.

]]> By: Darius http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-361 Darius Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:17:11 +0000 http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-361 Very good point, Sharon. It is likely not much of a coincidence that feelings have come to play a much greater role both in our society and in many of our churches at the same time that men have abdicated (or been pushed out of) their roles as natural leaders. Reason alone does not serve a church or society well, but neither do feelings and emotion alone encompass all that is necessary for leadership. Just as in marriage, the wife's natural emotions serve as a great complement to the husband's natural logical and reason-oriented leadership, churches need men to take the lead with the women serving complementary roles. This kind of ties back into what Jew said about Hillary Clinton in another blog comment, she described herself as a "mind conservative but a heart liberal." Basically, she let her feminine feelings-first side overrule her rational side. Obviously, this doesn't accurately define all men or all women, but as a general rule, churches need to recognize the potential for trouble that they invite on themselves when appointing a woman to be their head. Very good point, Sharon. It is likely not much of a coincidence that feelings have come to play a much greater role both in our society and in many of our churches at the same time that men have abdicated (or been pushed out of) their roles as natural leaders. Reason alone does not serve a church or society well, but neither do feelings and emotion alone encompass all that is necessary for leadership. Just as in marriage, the wife’s natural emotions serve as a great complement to the husband’s natural logical and reason-oriented leadership, churches need men to take the lead with the women serving complementary roles.

This kind of ties back into what Jew said about Hillary Clinton in another blog comment, she described herself as a “mind conservative but a heart liberal.” Basically, she let her feminine feelings-first side overrule her rational side. Obviously, this doesn’t accurately define all men or all women, but as a general rule, churches need to recognize the potential for trouble that they invite on themselves when appointing a woman to be their head.

]]> By: Jesus Paid It All http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-1464 Jesus Paid It All Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:29:36 +0000 http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/muslim-and-christian/#comment-1464 <strong>Jesus Paid It All...</strong> I couldn't understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting... Jesus Paid It All…

I couldn’t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting…

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