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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/british-supernannystate-might-just-come-to-america-to-help-save-you-from-yourself/#comment-523</link>
		<author>Darius</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Theodore Dalrymple wrote a great piece recently about how awful Blair was when it came to making Britain a nanny state.  Basically, not counting Sundays, a new law was created every day he was in office.  &lt;a HREF="http://city-journal.org/html/17_3_oh_to_be.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is Dalrymple's essay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theodore Dalrymple wrote a great piece recently about how awful Blair was when it came to making Britain a nanny state.  Basically, not counting Sundays, a new law was created every day he was in office.  <a HREF="http://city-journal.org/html/17_3_oh_to_be.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is Dalrymple&#8217;s essay.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/british-supernannystate-might-just-come-to-america-to-help-save-you-from-yourself/#comment-524</link>
		<author>Darius</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes, those smoking bans are really getting annoying.  Here in Minnesota, they just banned smoking in all bars, restaurants, and workplaces.  Our Republican governor regrettably signed the ban.  

It is interesting to note that the first modern day smoking ban was enacted by Hitler.  He was also a huge proponent for animal rights. He also outlawed homeschooling, which the Germans saw fit to keep on the books after WWII and is still in effect today (in fact, the law was just upheld by the European courts, which said that parents' rights to raise their children were superseded by the state's right to make sure that children were properly educated).

Unfortunately, such feel-good laws like smoking bans have majority support in this country since it helps everyone: those who don't smoke don't have to breath the toxic fumes, and those who do smoke are helped in their obvious need to quit.  Furthermore, in some parts of this country, the medical profession has decided to not give out transplants to alcoholics and long-time smokers.  What next, someone who eats fast food on a regular basis can't have a heart transplant?  

Organ transplants offer an understandably fine line... denying people care just because they have a bad habit is not right, yet if there is a shortage of organs, why should someone who knowingly took a risk by abusing cigarettes get an organ before someone who showed more restraint?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, those smoking bans are really getting annoying.  Here in Minnesota, they just banned smoking in all bars, restaurants, and workplaces.  Our Republican governor regrettably signed the ban.  </p>
<p>It is interesting to note that the first modern day smoking ban was enacted by Hitler.  He was also a huge proponent for animal rights. He also outlawed homeschooling, which the Germans saw fit to keep on the books after WWII and is still in effect today (in fact, the law was just upheld by the European courts, which said that parents&#8217; rights to raise their children were superseded by the state&#8217;s right to make sure that children were properly educated).</p>
<p>Unfortunately, such feel-good laws like smoking bans have majority support in this country since it helps everyone: those who don&#8217;t smoke don&#8217;t have to breath the toxic fumes, and those who do smoke are helped in their obvious need to quit.  Furthermore, in some parts of this country, the medical profession has decided to not give out transplants to alcoholics and long-time smokers.  What next, someone who eats fast food on a regular basis can&#8217;t have a heart transplant?  </p>
<p>Organ transplants offer an understandably fine line&#8230; denying people care just because they have a bad habit is not right, yet if there is a shortage of organs, why should someone who knowingly took a risk by abusing cigarettes get an organ before someone who showed more restraint?</p>
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		<title>By: Ornot the Majestic</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/british-supernannystate-might-just-come-to-america-to-help-save-you-from-yourself/#comment-527</link>
		<author>Ornot the Majestic</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Most "save me from myself" laws have an ingrained backing of philanthropy, though misguided.  This is indeed why they have such a majority of support.  We all know smoking is bad, so would it be bad if the US Government "encouraged" us to quit by raising taxes? Banning public smoking? Etc?  The problem turns into an 89 degree slippery slope...not quite vertical, but still quite a fast slide.  What people don't realize is that they are slowly giving up their right to their own life decisions and continually turning to the government to not only save us from ourselves, but to force such majority change on others.  It's equivalent to putting the frog in the water and slowly turning up the heat...he'll sit there till he dies.  Turn up the heat all at once and he jumps out of the water.

As for organ transplants, I think that's a different story.  There indeed ARE rules about organ transplants.  Those who drink on a bad liver usually are not first in line for the organ when they come in.  But if I can take your point a bit further, and show that if all healthcare becomes "publicly funded" (socialized), then it is the GOVERNMENT who makes final choices on such things.  Talk about legislating medical from a bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most &#8220;save me from myself&#8221; laws have an ingrained backing of philanthropy, though misguided.  This is indeed why they have such a majority of support.  We all know smoking is bad, so would it be bad if the US Government &#8220;encouraged&#8221; us to quit by raising taxes? Banning public smoking? Etc?  The problem turns into an 89 degree slippery slope&#8230;not quite vertical, but still quite a fast slide.  What people don&#8217;t realize is that they are slowly giving up their right to their own life decisions and continually turning to the government to not only save us from ourselves, but to force such majority change on others.  It&#8217;s equivalent to putting the frog in the water and slowly turning up the heat&#8230;he&#8217;ll sit there till he dies.  Turn up the heat all at once and he jumps out of the water.</p>
<p>As for organ transplants, I think that&#8217;s a different story.  There indeed ARE rules about organ transplants.  Those who drink on a bad liver usually are not first in line for the organ when they come in.  But if I can take your point a bit further, and show that if all healthcare becomes &#8220;publicly funded&#8221; (socialized), then it is the GOVERNMENT who makes final choices on such things.  Talk about legislating medical from a bench.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/british-supernannystate-might-just-come-to-america-to-help-save-you-from-yourself/#comment-538</link>
		<author>Amy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If you don't start giving me research credit, you can find a new paralegal!

I find the lack of personal responsibility expected here ridiculous.  If this idea did make it across the pond (which wouldn't surprise me as that is the direction we are trending), I can see it being met with much enthusiasm.  We are, after all, the country where &lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19587389/" rel="nofollow"&gt;the "Oops, I Crapped My Pants diet pill&lt;/a&gt; is flying off the shelves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t start giving me research credit, you can find a new paralegal!</p>
<p>I find the lack of personal responsibility expected here ridiculous.  If this idea did make it across the pond (which wouldn&#8217;t surprise me as that is the direction we are trending), I can see it being met with much enthusiasm.  We are, after all, the country where <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19587389/" rel="nofollow">the &#8220;Oops, I Crapped My Pants diet pill</a> is flying off the shelves.</p>
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		<title>By: Ornot the Majestic</title>
		<link>http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/british-supernannystate-might-just-come-to-america-to-help-save-you-from-yourself/#comment-575</link>
		<author>Ornot the Majestic</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Americans want it to work drastically and NOW.  It's like we are a collective 2 year old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans want it to work drastically and NOW.  It&#8217;s like we are a collective 2 year old.</p>
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